combiner box breakers?

Posted by James Johnson on May 25, 2008, 02:51:57 PM

combiner box breakers?
are breakers required in the combiner box for each panel?  OR can the overload protection be AFTER the combiner box on the positive leg?

J
 

Posted by James Cormican on May 25, 2008, 02:56:37 PM

Re: combiner box breakers? (Reply #1)
one combiner box breaker sized to match listing of max series fuse size on module per series string.  if you have two modules in parallel, that is two series strings of one in your combiner, and thus, 2 breakers.  in your dc load center is where the total pv disconnect would go that shuts off the whole array on the positive before the charge controller.

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Posted by James Johnson on May 25, 2008, 03:35:13 PM

Re: combiner box breakers? (Reply #2)
James,

thanks for the reply...please bear with me as I'm just getting into more complex systems. I plan to upgrade my mini system this summer.

Just a little more clarification please to see if I understand you correctly.


Connecting 3 single panels to the combiner box in order to make a larger parallel string, then each panel has it's own breaker rated at the ISC of each panel

Then right before the charge controller is another breaker that is rated for the total "x" amp output of the 3 panels IE: "x" x125%x125% correct?
 

Posted by James Cormican on May 26, 2008, 12:35:30 AM

Re: combiner box breakers? (Reply #3)



Connecting 3 single panels to the combiner box in order to make a larger parallel string, then each panel has it's own breaker rated at the ISC of each panel

-- no, first, strings are modules connected in series, so "parallel string" is very confusing.  in a system with three modules in parallel, you would have 3 series strings of 1 module in parallel.  second, each module has its own breaker rated at either -max series fuse rating- or - ISC x 1.56 if there is no fuse size listed on back of module-.

Then right before the charge controller is another breaker that is rated for the total "x" amp output of the 3 panels IE: "x" x125%x125% correct?
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yes, kinda.  before and after the charge controller, there are circuit breakers to isolate the controller from all sources of current (in this case, pv and battery) and to protect the conductors carrying the current to and from them both.

if you want to let me know what you are up to and with what equipment, i would be glad to help more.

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Posted by James Johnson on May 26, 2008, 03:41:00 PM

Re: combiner box breakers? (Reply #4)
I'm in the planning process of upgrading my mini system (see this post) - http://forums.altenergystore.com/Renewable-Energy/Technical/using-12v-dc-appliances-during-the-day/index.php/topic,1402.0.html#msg4983

The overall goal is to get my music studio 100% solar powered. I'll be operating the studio during daylight hours only, so maybe this helps in terms of how much energy I'll be pulling from the battery, since I'll be running things while the panels are producing electricity.


I'd like to upgrade the system so that I can get 240watts or more of 12v power each day. While still only cycling the battery by about 20% - 25%, in order to extend the lifespan of the battery. I'll need to upgrade the battery for sure, and will have to add a couple more 20watt panels..then I need to figure out the more complex part of wiring and the combiner box, charge controller. I'm trying to stay away from an inverter and use just 12vdc. The Photovoltaics book is an great resource, however, there's a few things not covered in it, that I'd like to learn more about.

How can I run multiple laptops using 12v DC adapters off one battery? Maybe make some kind of junction box coming off the battery, for 12v DC wiring runs within the studio. Then these wiring runs go to 12v DC "female" outlets where I can plug in the laptops. How can I keep track of the battery charge status and hence have some kind of LVD since I'm using no inverter?

yup..need some help here for sure..Smiley

 
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