Ice free water

Posted by Andrea Christenot on November 21, 2007, 02:33:42 PM

Ice free water
I'm new to solar energy experimentation.  I would like to make a small system to keep my horse's water warm this winter.  There is no access to electricity so thought solar power would be the way to go.  What do I need to get started?
 

Posted by Dennis Adams on November 21, 2007, 03:23:27 PM

Re: Ice free water (Reply #1)
Can I ask a couple of questions first?  First, how much water is in the trough and what's the lowest temperature you want to have ice-free water available?  What temperature do you want to try to keep the water at?  (Just thinking 33ยบ might be a little too cold to drink.)  Assuming you want to keep water available for a number of cloudy days, you'll need batteries, so how many days to you want to guarantee icefree water?  More days = more batteries.
 

Posted by John D on November 22, 2007, 09:22:35 PM

Re: Ice free water (Reply #2)
What you're suggesting is a solar PV system to be used for resistance heating.  That is usually an expensive way to go.

You might consider circulating water from underground (to warm it), maybe through a series of burried pvc pipes.  A small pump wouldn't use too much energy, and could be powered by a modest solar PV system.  If you decide to pursue that approach, first look into pumps.  Find the power requirements for the pump you choose.  Then it's a simple matter to design a PV system large enough to supply that much power.

John
 

Posted by Dennis Adams on November 23, 2007, 02:53:27 AM

Re: Ice free water (Reply #3)
John, I'm wondering first, why you think its expensive and secondly, why you think its more expensive than installing and maintaining a piped supply to and a pump itself in freezing conditions.  If you did go that route, then you still have to power the pump, so solar panels (and batteries) would still be needed.  A simple panel (and maybe batteries) connected to a small resistance heating element (maybe more like heat tracing) might be just the right solution.  Certainly much simpler. If the temperature difference isn't much and there is some insulation available, power reqirements could be quite small. 
 

Posted by Dennis Adams on November 23, 2007, 08:09:53 AM

Re: Ice free water (Reply #4)
Actually, I suppos the best way is to make an even simpler solar thermal collector installation.
 
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