Generate amps or Generate watts?

Posted by Ken Hall on September 14, 2008, 11:33:49 AM

Re: Generate amps or Generate watts? (Reply #10)
Whoops, I forgot that the OP had originally specified no batteries.
So, the array would be somewhere between 100kW and 150kW, depending on the peak daytime temperature and humidity.
Water production would drop way off. My guess would be somewhere around 350 gallons a day, depending on exact temp and RH.

I don’t think the intended location is an arid desert. This type of device works best under high humidity. My guess would be someplace in the tropics.

If Smith would spell out the problem, where he is trying to put it, how many gallons a day is needed, etc, we might be able to help solve the problem.

 

Posted by Smith Oshodin on September 14, 2008, 05:12:55 PM

Re: Generate amps or Generate watts? (Reply #11)
Everyone has spoken wisely but the question is like David said amps,volts and watts are like the holy trinity of power.In your example you said that if we have a 200 watt pv module with a voltage of 24 volts we get 200/24=8.3 amps, which means we get 8.3amps from a 200w-24v solar panel. Is we decide to generate 450amps can we not now say 450/8.3=approximately 55, which means that 55 200w 24v solar panel will generate 450apms right? If this is so why can we then power450amps with 55 200w 24v solar panel? IS this possible?
 

Posted by David A on September 15, 2008, 01:21:01 AM

Re: Generate amps or Generate watts? (Reply #12)
 
 it is good to see that you are trying to understand the relationship of power. the volts, amps, and watts are all tied together in unbreakable rules. here is a link (maybe) that helps to show how they relate and they have a useful ohms wheel. the "rosary" of power if you will.   

  http://www.elec-toolbox.com/Formulas/Useful/formulas.htm

  if we take our 200 watt pv module at 24 volts equals 8.3 amps example. 200/24=8.3 we can express it as 24x8.3=200 or 200/8.3=24.they are all the same. now lets see how the relationships change with voltage. lets try 12volts in our formula. 200/12=16.6 amps. how about 48 volts thats 200/48=4.1 amps. these examples are all still the same amount of available power. lets try one more..how about 220 volts. 200/220=0.9amps.

  now our approximate equipment requirements for this exercise 220 volts and 450amps (thats without the needed 3^ calculation thomas mentioned) we have the following         ?watts/220volts=450amps. or 450x220=99,000 watts of pv for a pv direct scheme.

 don't be discouraged, keep looking for a solution to your goals. (what are the goals exactly) there is more that one way to skin a cat. so keep at it.

  here is something interesting about making potable water from very dirty supplies even sewage!

 http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jan/02/local/me-reclaim2

best of luck, 73
« Last Edit: September 15, 2008, 02:17:20 AM by david ames »
 

Posted by Smith Oshodin on September 15, 2008, 02:16:18 AM

Re: Generate amps or Generate watts? (Reply #13)
In my last reply is the theory possible. Since there is an inverter involved
 

Posted by David A on September 15, 2008, 02:25:59 AM

Re: Generate amps or Generate watts? (Reply #14)

 well in theory anything is possible. but in practice only things that are possible are possible.

so i would say no. even with two inverters.

good luck
 
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