For those that have successfully gone off-grid, how many watts?

Posted by Travis M on May 05, 2008, 11:47:35 AM

Re: For those that have successfully gone off-grid, how many watts? (Reply #10)
Here is an attempt at the whole house off grid needs.

My usage has traditionally run at about 1200kwh per month.

Thats about 40 kwh per day.
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81k Ouch.


Ouch, indeed!  If your home is really using 40kwh / day, there is probably a lot you can tackle before even considering a single solar panel.  Is your home all-electric (as in, HVAC and hot water too)?

 

Posted by Travis M on May 05, 2008, 11:50:36 AM

Re: For those that have successfully gone off-grid, how many watts? (Reply #11)
I too would love to take my home completely off grid, but due to the high costs of doing that as is ... I'm trying to work it a step at a time. With the goal of getting everything except ( heating, cooling, dryer, oven ) on to RE.

I would love comments and suggestions about what follows:

I'm thinking about and trying to approach it this way:

1. I'm installing a standalone, off grid circuit. ( its not yet complete) That will power my shed, back yard, garage, and two receptacles in my living room ( which doubles as my home office ) This first Array and Bank will provide around 2kwh per day. It might not sound like much, but it meets the needs of this isolated circuit.

I would suggest the shed, garage, etc. (everything NOT the house) be on its own system.  It will always be a smaller system than the house, will still serve as emergency backup power if needed (with an extension cord), and will allow you create a miniature version of what the house would be someday.
Do the house on a seperate system, once you have the garage one completed, and you're happy with it.  By the time your done with the smaller system, you will have a lot more education and ideas that you just can't get any other way.
 

Posted by Keith Birchfield on May 05, 2008, 01:08:11 PM

Re: For those that have successfully gone off-grid, how many watts? (Reply #12)
... Is your home all-electric (as in, HVAC and hot water too)?

Yes, My home is all electric ... including heat pump, electric heat, hot water heater ... several computers running 24x7 ... large entertainment center with tons of 'phantom load'.

The 1200kwh, is from before I started looking at it, and trying to change my consumption ... with changing life style.

So far, the only thing I've done to improve consumption, is changing (almost) all of my light bulbs.

I definitely need help, and need to learn more about how to reduce consumption ... again, without changing life style.
 

Posted by Keith Birchfield on May 05, 2008, 01:10:44 PM

Re: For those that have successfully gone off-grid, how many watts? (Reply #13)
I would suggest the shed, garage, etc. (everything NOT the house) be on its own system.  It will always be a smaller system than the house, will still serve as emergency backup power if needed (with an extension cord), and will allow you create a miniature version of what the house would be someday.
Do the house on a seperate system, once you have the garage one completed, and you're happy with it.  By the time your done with the smaller system, you will have a lot more education and ideas that you just can't get any other way.

Thanks for the feedback, it is very much appreciated. I'm sort of doing it that way now. Instead of a drop cord for emergencies.... I'm wiring two receptacles in my living/working space.

And I hear you on the learning by doing comment. I'm learning a lot more by putting hands on, then I could have ever learned by just reading. I've still got a long ways to go though. :-)
 

Posted by Mike Casper on May 06, 2008, 12:06:08 PM

Re: For those that have successfully gone off-grid, how many watts? (Reply #14)
Although I have not gone completely "off grid" I can give you some first steps to get there (because I am getting there).
1-conserve--Replace big appliances first (frig, furnace) my 19' cubic Kenmore frig (freezer top) uses only 1 kilowatt a day.  Furnace is high efficiency (96%).  Replace lights with LEDs (porch light is outside in cold so it is LED) CFL's elsewhere.  I converted 20W desk lamps to auto LEDs (www.ledlight.com).  Add plug strips to phantom loads, then switch all of them off at once (until you need them).  If someone tells you "if it ain't broke don't fix it" but your frig is costing more than $3 bucks a month - its broke.  Oh, get newer shower head (low flow/high pressure) and a new toilet, aerators for faucets.
2-smart solar--start with solar hot water.  This is least expensive and gives the most payback.  You use hot water all the time.  Get solar hot air, there are 4 x 8' panels that only need a 6" vent hole (or 2) to install.
3-solar electric--get this after you review your electric bill (with conserve efforts included).  Most off-griders get a gas generator for the winter season but you can save that cash as you have the grid (use cheapest energy first).
Other savings--wood is a good storage medium for heat, get a wood stove (not fireplace) if you have woods near by.

As for the "how many Watts" question? as much as you can afford.  You may have a family and may use more than just me.
 
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