Anti-Gravity device. (serious question)

Posted by FD Olving on July 29, 2007, 12:41:44 AM

Re: Anti-Gravity device. (serious question) (Reply #10)
And there is the question again, what is gravity? 

Didn't the string theorists figure it out?

Isn't electro-mechanical the stronger localized force of gravity?

I do not believe the big bang displaced fluid theory re-filling the void(s) forcing me down on the Earth's surface since, the planet is spinning too fast.

Then there is this confusing analogy:
"Outerspace" (which has no particles in it) is like a "web" with bowling balls on it. 

Maybe the analogy is correct but, I don't think the web is the cause of gravity but a vision of a negligible side affect of what the "ether" looks like due to masses moving through it. 

Obviously outerspace particles, just like air, move when objects pass through it.

I think the electro-magnetic field is too geometrically large for us to detect and maybe so weak we can't detect it.

We've considered theoretical particles - maybe we already know them all and just haven't figured out all their capabilities.

In the meantime we at least have Einstein's and Newton's and Bernoulli's and Archimede's equations to use the natural forces in nature caused by ... .

Finally:  thank goodness someone is out there providing products to minimize our current impact on the environment - and why I joined this website.

P.S. (if someone discovers a strong localized magnetic field like the devil's triangle  harness it - I doubt the planet will stop rotating - unless your as big as Saturn)










 



 

Posted by Thomas Allen Schmidt on July 29, 2007, 10:26:25 AM

Re: Anti-Gravity device. (serious question) (Reply #11)
How about this question. Are Gravity and molecular cohesion one and the same?
There is whats know as the Hutchinson effect, mass can be effected by changing the frequency energy harmonics. Gravity has an energy matrix and with all energy that matrix has frequency oscillations that create a carrier wave effect. This is also true about subatomic particles and their weak and strong nuclear bonding. The structures have energy bonds holding them in there order. It is this electromagnetic field bonding that creates the effect known as gravitational attraction.
It would seem possible that if a person could find a way to collect the frequency energy being produced by mass then transmit the gravitational energy, we would have an unlimited supply of energy potential to draw form. However, if resonance effect is not controlled the result would be a catastrophic breakdown of sub atomic and molecular cohesion starting a cascade chain reaction effect. But if the effect can be controlled the potential for massive energy production would be unlimited.
 Could this be happening in a natural way. Coronal mass ejections from our Sun can, at times, have an extremely large amount of mass. Some the size of Mount Everest! Our Earth is bombarded with this mass all the time. Each having thier own respective resonance energy matrix. Its when that mass is repelled by our Earths magnetosphere, we witness the Auroras near the North and South poles.

But a bigger question arise in my mind. What do we need with all of this energy anyway? What is it that drives humans to the brink of madness in a quest for more and more?
 

Posted by Chris Brown on July 31, 2007, 12:18:59 AM

Re: Anti-Gravity device. (serious question) (Reply #12)
"And there is the question again, what is gravity?"

In my studies of philosophy, for the most part, whenever you get deep into anything you end up asking yourself, "what is x anyhow?". I stopped worrying about finding 'necessary and sufficient' definitions, mostly cuz i couldn't find any, and started to think more pragmatically (a typical American story).   

"Didn't the string theorists figure it out?"

They might have! I read Feyman's QED and pretty much gave up after that.

"Maybe the analogy is correct but, I don't think the web is the cause of gravity but a vision of a negligible side affect of what the "ether" looks like due to masses moving through it."

This might be referring to the graph paper/basket ball analogy. I didn't mean this to imply that space/time was the  cause of gravity... it's more like the field that gravity is played on. And I'm no physicist! This is just the way I feel the universe to be from some stuff I've read. From my recollection, "ether" was a reference to an absolute space, where the photon's launched traveling on a train would move faster then the photons launched from a stationary position. I don't think general theory of relativity implies that space/time is the cause of gravity, mass still is. It's the basketball that is curving the paper.

"I think the electro-magnetic field is too geometrically large for us to detect and maybe so weak we can't detect it."

I know some people that have been hit with some seriously strong DC current that might have a contrary option.

"thank goodness someone is out there providing products to minimize our current impact on the environment - and why I joined this website."

I'm glad your here FD!

"How about this question. Are Gravity and molecular cohesion one and the same?"

As far as I know they are not, and that's been one of the big issues in physics for the last 100 years or so.

"It is this electromagnetic field bonding that creates the effect known as gravitational attraction."

Well I can sort of see this. If M1 has a mass of 1 and M2 has a mass of 2, and they are bonded via an electrical attraction, there combined mass would have a greater gravitational effect then if unbounded, but I don't see the causality- but I haven't studied the Hutchinson effect... maybe for tonights reading.

"It would seem possible that if a person could find a way to collect the frequency energy being produced by mass then transmit the gravitational energy, we would have an unlimited supply of energy potential to draw form."

Any particle that has mass has a gravitational force. If we  interpret the Heisenberg uncertainty principle literately, then the gravitational effect of an object changes as we observe it's velocity. If we can harness a very small amount of matter's gravitational energy, and manipulate its position via observation, then we can create energy via differing wave positions. Peek-a-boo energy. Cheesy

"However, if resonance effect is not controlled the result would be a catastrophic breakdown of sub atomic and molecular cohesion starting a cascade chain reaction effect."

Hail Eris!

"What do we need with all of this energy anyway?"

I love my iphone.

But for real, we are in a fight against thermodynamics. Life seems to oppose disorder as much as it can. If we're on a fight for life, then were on a fight for energy. Living requires consumption of energy, and that is not a bad thing at all.









 

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Posted by FD Olving on August 11, 2007, 08:11:11 AM

Re: Anti-Gravity device. (serious question) (Reply #13)
I agree with Chris - so many of us search for answers to the same questions Einstein had.  I'm going to leave it up to the "top" physicists.

And after all my rants and side stories - I re-read the question.

I interpret the question as: is a buoy under water an anti-gravity "device".  And my answer is, no.  It has to have an external force applied to it to get it under water in the first place - all it is tryingto do is seek it's own distance from the center of the planet (level of "gravity") according to it's density and once it reaches it it has no energy of it's own to counter fight gravity ever again unless an external force is applied to it again to move it out of it's location.  (yea, I think I got back on track)

And someone else here explained this - Tom ?
 

Posted by Robert Wood on October 10, 2007, 12:00:21 PM

Re: Anti-Gravity device. (serious question) (Reply #14)
NO.  If it were an anti-gravity device it would float into space. 
 
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